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Jean-Robert's Final Tribal Council Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:46:35 pm
by Jeff Probst
This is Jean-Robert's Final Tribal Council Thread.

All other Jurors should remain in their own threads. 

Jean-Robert, you have until Sunday at 8c/9e to post your statements/questions to the Final 2. Remember not to take up too much of their time as they have 8 other jurors to get to. Please no listing or questions requiring novels for answers. You should post all of your statements/questions in your opening post in this thread, keeping follow-ups to a necessary minimum, or congratulatory thank you/nothing further.

Re: Jean-Robert's Final Tribal Council Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:06:01 pm
by Jean-Robert
What’s up guys,

First, I want to congratulate you guys on being the final 2, big accomplishment and you both should be proud. I’m not gonna sugar coat it, I’m almost certain where my vote is going and I think you both do as well, but going to go through the motions and if I’m impressed, I could see myself being more open minded. So my questions…


Xander, you quite literally bullshitted me all game. Did you simply just view me as a game piece, or did you have respect for me as a player? Were there ever genuine intentions to work together? I don’t know man, honestly you pissed me off, which is why I went off on you at my last tribal… but ya feel free tell me anything to dislike you less as a player…

Abe, I agree that you were a worthy adversary. Hearing your opening statement reassured me that I was right in going after you for a good chunk of the merge. My question for you is that I feel like people didn’t realize our personal relationship in conversations and I wanted to know if that meant anything to you? Talking to you at 3am about the kush you grew and just our general rivalry was super fun to play through every day. I guess this is not too dissimilar to what I asked Xander. Did you take me seriously?It is clear that there were never intentions to work together, but was that connection real?

Regardless of your guys answers, respect to you both for making it to this point. I wish you both the best of luck and look forward to catching up after the game!

Re: Jean-Robert's Final Tribal Council Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:39:48 pm
by Abraham
Hey JR. First of all, it was so incredibly fun having you as an adversary and getting to play the game with you. Of course, the personal relationship we had was absolutely real. If you remember, I mentioned to you that a lot of the time we would have our back and forth, I would be smiling or laughing because it felt just like Survivor on TV. I feel like you had a similar idea going into the game that I did - play like a legend. Play like someone we loved to watch and never take half-measures to get there. And because of that, there was no way I would be able to work with you in a full on alliance capacity. I was real with you every time we talked about things outside the game and I still plan to keep up with you post-game. I just had so much work put into my alliances and maneuvering around the Ancha tribe, that it was clear we could never work together more than on a few votes here and there.

I also enjoyed that you were someone who was always on during the late nights / early mornings as those were the most boring times being the only one online. Having you online during those times was great and it definitely showed through in our conversations. So yes, I was definitely taking you seriously. I knew building a genuine relationship with you was important because I knew how far you could possibly go in this game. We both worked incredibly hard to get where we got, and I took you as a serious threat to my game. The conversations we had did mean something to me and sometimes it's hard to separate the game from personal relationships, so you can see how others might not have seen the same relationship we had. You were my toughest competition in this game, by far. You were the only one who saw through my entire game and pinned me as someone who just needed to go.

Feel free to ask me any follow ups, I'll be happy to answer you.

Re: Jean-Robert's Final Tribal Council Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:34:00 pm
by Jean-Robert
Abe, I really appreciate your answer and it made me smile reading it. I have no further questions for you. Great game!

Xander, I see you’ve answered some of the other jury member’s questions. This was also my first ORG experience, so know what I’ve said and I’m about to say is not meant to overwhelm you. However, I would really appreciate it if you have something to say because not having the closure to why you bullshitted me all game is making me feel extremely negatively about you, just being honest.

Re: Jean-Robert's Final Tribal Council Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:43:09 pm
by Xander
Originally, before the merge, I intentionally wanted to explore flipping with you. But all of that blew up with the screenshot. I came to you the next day and gave you a large amount of information thinking I'd be gone soon. There were definitely genuine conversations we had, I talked to you about a mental health medical issue that didn't come up in any of my other conversations. I was afraid to work with you because I couldn't trust that you would stay honest with me after the screenshot being such a clear betrayal on my part.

I think it depends on whether or not respecting one as a player and using them in the game are mutually exclusive.  

I did respect you as a player, You were a force who could play hard and be endearing while doing it. If you don't win fan favorite then the poll is rigged. You were such a strong player JR, that I took a similar approach with you as I did Sara, channel your intensity for my benefit. I told you Abe Deshawn and Evvie were the big three and you made that gospel among the whole tribe. You consistently underestimated me as a player to the point that you never questioned if I was voting with you for multiple rounds. 

 You were right that I should have gotten rid of Abe earlier, but I am pretty proud of myself for playing you for as long as I did. With all that said, If bullshitting you for as many rounds as I did is a “mediocre game” then that says more about you than it does me.

Re: Jean-Robert's Final Tribal Council Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:01:00 pm
by Jean-Robert
1. Of course I questioned whether you would be with me for votes, you never gave me a reason to believe that we were actually on the same page. I recall saying to Leslie quite often that I couldn’t depend on you for anything in this game multiple times, so you would be wrong to think that you just duped me over and over. I just didn’t think being a paranoid loose cannon to your face in IMs would have helped that. 

2. What your answer is showing to me is that you respected me as a player, and not as much as a PERSON. When you talked to me about the mental health medical stuff that you mentioned, I thought we had formed a legitimate connection, I never talked with anyone about it, and I think that’s where I felt more duped with you in this game because that’s some pretty heavy stuff and to have you uninterested in playing this game in any capacity with me after that threw me off.

3. Don’t be mistaken, I very much respected your game and think you’re a very good player. Don’t forget that I vote you as most likely to be an all-star at the In-Crowd challenge as well. This animosity stems from the fact that I felt hurt by you as a person in this game. I’m voting for the player I think played the better game, regardless, I’m not looking to be a bitter juror. But that’s why my questions are coming from this angle, my decision of who played better is kind of already set.

Re: Jean-Robert's Final Tribal Council Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:41:15 pm
by Xander
  1. I am only responding to your saying that I bullshitted you this entire game. But you still came to me multiple times and acted with conviction that i was voting with you. You may not consider it being duped, but whatever you wanna call it,  it clearly worked.
  2. Despite my game being based on deception, I never intended to hurt you personally. I was forthcoming with you about my personal life but I don't think you ever were excessively so with me. We talked about your experience with cannabis and not having to pump our own gas (Yeah you heard that everyone Oregon and NJ!!). Besides that you focused primarily on game talk with me. I do appreciate that you didn't talk to anyone about that, but I never thought you would. Despite what you may think, I think you're a pretty cool guy and didn't think it was in your nature to do something like that. 
  3. I appreciate you saying that after your comments at your last tribal. I'm also totally flattered you voted for me for All Stars. That shows me that you did see something in my game that was worthy and valuable. I hope you can look back on your reasons for thinking that and consider it while voting for the winner even if you say your mind is made up.